Convince Me There’s A God – Thermodynamics

After leaving atheism for theism 42 years ago, I’m answering some of the most-asked questions from atheists: What happened to me? Did I lose my mind? Was I on drugs? How can an atheist possibly become a theist? Was I just a bad atheist? Is that what happened?

I admit that I brought this on myself. In 1970 I “dared” God to appear on my radio talk show if He “really” existed. God did not appear on my show that day, but He did several months later. I asked God to convince me He existed and He did just what I asked Him to do. He began the process of revealing Himself to me on my radio show.

I interviewed Dr. Henry Morris in early 1971 for the purpose of making fun of his belief in a worldwide flood and the existence of Noah’s Ark on a mountain range in Turkey. What Dr. Morris shared with me that day led to months of investigation to find out if what he told me was true.

We’ve already looked at serious questions about the Theory of Evolution and considered the Cosmological Argument, the Teleological Argument, Cosmic Fine-Tuning, and the Law of Causality. Today, we’ll look at The Laws of Thermodynamics.

I used to trust in science for answers to my questions about the universe, the earth, and life. That’s what I learned in school and it seemed to be a solid way of thinking and living.  However, even though I trusted science for information about life, I knew little about science. So, when I heard that science might support belief in the existence of God I wanted to know more. Even though I was an atheist, I was a journalist and searching out the truth is what a journalist does – wherever truth takes them.

Dr. Morris spoke about the Laws of Thermodynamics and its importance to understanding origins. Thermodynamics is the “physics that deals with the mechanical action or relations of heat” (Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary,1991).

The history of Thermodynamics as a scientific discipline goes back to the 17th century, but took off in the 19th century with scientists like Sadi Carnot, William Rankine, Rudolf Clausius, Emile Clapeyron, and William Thomson.

I learned that there are four basic laws or principles for Thermodynamics – starting with Zeroth and moving to the First, Second and Third Laws. What I remember learning was that the total amount of energy in the universe is constant and though it can change from one form to another, it cannot be created or destroyed. Dr. Morris called it the “principle of conservation.”

What I found most interesting was the Second Law of Thermodynamics which states that disorder increases (also known as the Law of Increased Entropy). Dr. Morris called it the “principle of disintegration.” While the quantity of of energy remains the same (First Law), the quality of energy deteriorates gradually over time (Second Law). Entropy increases as usable energy decreases and unusable energy increases.  That leads to an increase in disorganization, randomness and chaos. Dr. Morris believed the Second Law of Thermodynamics disproved “evolution.”

“The very terms themselves express contradictory concepts. The word “evolution” is of course derived from a Latin word meaning “out-rolling”. The picture is of an outward-progressing spiral, an unrolling from an infinitesimal beginning through ever broadening circles, until finally all reality is embraced within. ”Entropy,” on the other hand, means literally “in-turning.” It is derived from the two Greek words en (meaning “in”) and trope (meaning “turning”). The concept is of something spiraling inward upon itself, exactly the opposite concept to “evolution.” Evolution is change outward and upward, entropy is change inward and downward.” (Evolution, Thermodynamics, and Entropy, by Henry Morris, Ph.D., icr.org)

So, what does this have to do with proving the existence of God? I was taught in high school and college that the universe is eternal and infinite. However, I learned from a study of the Second Law of Thermodynamics that energy deteriorates over time. If the universe was truly eternal, it would have already run out of energy and we would not exist. Since the universe is running out of energy every second but still has energy left for heat and work in our universe, it goes to prove that it had a beginning.

Evolutionists were not sitting idly by as the Laws of Thermodynamics were being discussed by theists as proof for God’s existence. For example, biologist Harold Blum wrote in the early 1950′s about reconciling the Second Law of Thermodynamics with organic evolution (Time’s Arrow and Evolution, Princeton University Press, 1951). Even earlier than Blum was Dr. Alfred Lotka, who wroteElements of Physical Biology in 1924 dealing with evolutionary thermodynamics. The 1965 article by Jack Kirkaldy, Thermodynamics of Terrestrial Evolution, is also good to read for background.

Other arguments I remember that opposed the idea of the Second Law of Thermodynamics disproving evolution were:

  • Exceptions to the Second Law are possible because it’s only a statistical statement
  • Second Law doesn’t apply to living systems
  • Second Law doesn’t apply to open systems
  • Second Law doesn’t apply to other parts of the universe

The Laws of Thermodynamics did not prove to me that God exists, but were a strong argument that the universe had a beginning. Interestingly, the Bible starts with that very point – “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) Dr. Morris and other scientists who believed in God used the Laws of Thermodynamics as part of their argument for the existence of God. If God did not Create the heavens and the earth, what did? What started everything? I was pointed to these words from the ancient Bible to answer that question - “By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.” (Hebrews 11:3)

I needed a lot of convincing and God had much to show me. In our next study about the existence of God – we’ll look at the Law of Morality.

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About Mark McGee

Mark McGee is a career journalist and former atheist. He studied Radio and Television journalism at St. Petersburg College and St. Petersburg School of Broadcasting. Mark's first job in radio news was in Tampa, Florida in 1967. He later became a television reporter and anchor and moved into news management where he served as a managing editor, executive producer and news director. Mark was also a State Correspondent for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution. God saved Mark from atheism in 1971 and apologetics quickly became a favorite topic of study. He was encouraged by Josh McDowell's "Evidence That Demands A Verdict" in 1972 and started writing apologetics studies for Christian publications, adding an apologetics' blog in 1995 called GraceLife Answers (now FaithandSelfDefense.com). Mark is the author of three books with Fifth Estate Publishing ("The Chinese Five Word Song," "A History of Man's Quest for Immortality," and "GraceLife: Words of Hope and Encouragement in a Discouraging World"), and more than 20 Ebooks for GraceLifeThoughts.com. Mark has also been involved in martial arts for more than 50 years and is a professional instructor in both unarmed and armed self defense tactics. You can follow Mark on Twitter, Facebook and Google+
  • a_pismo_klamm

    I agree with the argument, but can someone spell out in terms that an old simpleton with a liberal arts education can understand? I keep stumbling over the premise that if the universe were eternal it would have run out of energy and we would not exist. I’d like to be able to explain this to others but I need to get my mind around it …Thanks

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000698398268 Garry Davenport

      An unsaid point within this article is that the idea of an eternally existent universe and the degrading of usable energy create a conceptual absurdity that cannot be grasped since the degradation would be a time related phenomena. But how can you have a time related phenomena arise from an infinite past? Now, you could have a causal agent that brings energy into existence at a point and then that energy begins to degrade over time going forward, but how do you have a universe without energy, usable or otherwise? See the problems that arise when you try to reconcile the two? I think that you need to approach it from the other side of things. Since we know that energy is coexistent with the universe, and we know that the usable amount energy is steadily eroding, we can know that the universe with its energy must have had a beginning and not be eternal.

      • a_pismo_klamm

        Thanks Garry
        That clarifies it
        Regards